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		<title>A Jesus Manifesto for the 21st Century Church by Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[This article first appeared in the July 2009 issue of Next-Wave and was a republication of a viral message circulating on the internet. It eventually became a best selling book. <a href="http://http://www.the-next-wave.info/archives/issue127/index.cfm.html">You can browse the other articles from July 2009 here</a>: http://www.the-next-wave.info/archives/issue127/index.cfm.html ]</strong></p>
<h2>Christians have made the gospel   about so many things … things other than Christ.</h2>
<p>Jesus  Christ is the gravitational   pull that brings everything together and  gives them significance, reality,   and meaning. Without him, all things  lose their value. Without him,   all things are but detached pieces  floating around in space.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.the-next-wave.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/jesusmanifestoissuecover.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-512" title="jesusmanifestoissuecover" src="http://www.the-next-wave.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/jesusmanifestoissuecover.jpg" alt="" hspace="8" width="201" height="266" /></a>It is possible to emphasize   a  spiritual truth, value, virtue, or gift, yet miss Christ . . . who   is  the embodiment and incarnation of all spiritual truth, values, virtues,    and gifts.</p>
<p>Seek a truth, a value, a virtue,   or a spiritual gift, and you have obtained something dead.</p>
<p>Seek  Christ, embrace Christ,   know Christ, and you have touched him who is  Life. And in him resides   all Truth, Values, Virtues and Gifts in  living color. Beauty has its   meaning in the beauty of Christ, in whom  is found all that makes us   lovely and loveable.</p>
<p>What is Christianity? <em>It   is Christ.</em> Nothing more. Nothing less. Christianity is not an ideology.    Christianity is not a philosophy. Christianity is the “good news”   that  Beauty, Truth and Goodness are found in a person. Biblical community    is founded and found on the connection to that person. Conversion is    more than a change in direction; it&#8217;s a change in connection. Jesus&#8217;    use of the ancient Hebrew word <em>shubh</em>, or its Aramaic  equivalent,   to call for “repentance” implies not viewing God from a  distance,   but entering into a relationship where God is command  central of the   human connection.</p>
<p>In that regard, we feel a massive   disconnection in the church today. Thus this manifesto.</p>
<p>We  believe that the major disease   of the church today is JDD: Jesus  Deficit Disorder. The person of Jesus   is increasingly politically  incorrect, and is being replaced by the   language of “justice,” “the  kingdom of God,” “values,” and   “leadership principles.”</p>
<p>In  this hour, the testimony   that we feel God has called us to bear  centers on the primacy of the   Lord Jesus Christ. Specifically . . .</p>
<ul>The  center and circumference   of the Christian life is none other than the  person of Christ. All other   things, including things related to him  and about him, are eclipsed   by the sight of his peerless worth.  Knowing Christ <em>is</em> Eternal   Life. And knowing him profoundly,  deeply, and in reality, as well as   experiencing his unsearchable  riches, is the chief pursuit of our lives,   as it was for the first  Christians. God is not so much about fixing   things that have gone  wrong in our lives as finding us in our brokenness   and giving us  Christ.</ul>
<ul>Jesus Christ cannot be    separated from his teachings. Aristotle says to his disciples, “Follow    my teachings.” Socrates says to his disciples, “Follow my teachings.”    Buddha says to his disciples, “Follow my meditations.” Confucius   says  to his disciples, “Follow my sayings.” Muhammad says to his    disciples, “Follow my noble pillars.” Jesus says to his disciples,    “Follow me.” In all other religions, a follower can follow the teachings    of its founder without having a relationship with that founder. Not    so with Jesus Christ. The teachings of Jesus cannot be separated from    Jesus himself. Jesus Christ is still alive and he embodies his  teachings.   It is a profound mistake, therefore, to treat Christ as  simply the founder   of a set of moral, ethical, or social teaching. The  Lord Jesus and his   teaching are one. The Medium and the Message are  One. Christ is the   incarnation of the Kingdom of God and the Sermon on  the Mount.</ul>
<ul>God&#8217;s grand mission and    eternal purpose in the earth and in heaven centers in Christ . . . both    the individual Christ (the Head) and the corporate Christ (the Body).    This universe is moving towards one final goal &#8211; the fullness of  Christ   where He shall fill all things with himself. To be truly  missional,   then, means constructing one&#8217;s life and ministry on Christ.  He is both   the heart and bloodstream of God&#8217;s plan. To miss this is  to miss the   plot; indeed, it is to miss everything.</ul>
<ul>Being  a follower of Jesus   does not involve imitation so much as it does  implantation and impartation.   Incarnation-the notion that God connects  to us in baby form and human   touch&#8211;is the most shocking doctrine of  the Christian religion. The   incarnation is both once-and-for-all and  ongoing, as the One “who   was and is to come” <em>now</em> is and lives  his resurrection life   in and through us. Incarnation doesn&#8217;t just  apply to Jesus; it applies   to every one of us. Of course, not in the  same sacramental way. But   close. We have been given God&#8217;s “Spirit”  which makes Christ “real”   in our lives. We have been made, as Peter  puts it, “partakers of the   divine nature.” How, then, in the face of  so great a truth can we   ask for toys and trinkets? How can we lust  after lesser gifts and itch   for religious and spiritual thingys? We&#8217;ve  been touched from on high   by the fires of the Almighty and given  divine life. A life that has   passed through death &#8211; the very  resurrection life of the Son of God   himself. How can we not be fired  up?</ul>
<ul>To put it in a question:   What  was the engine, or the accelerator, of the Lord&#8217;s amazing life?   What  was the taproot or the headwaters of his outward behavior? It was    this: <em>Jesus lived by an indwelling Father.</em> After his  resurrection,   the passage has now moved. What God the Father was to  Jesus Christ,   Jesus Christ is to you and to me. He&#8217;s our indwelling  Presence, and   we share in the life of Jesus&#8217; own relationship with the  Father. There   is a vast ocean of difference between trying to compel  Christians to   imitate Jesus and learning how to impart an implanted  Christ. The former   only ends up in failure and frustration. The latter  is the gateway to   life and joy in our daying and our dying. We stand  with Paul: “Christ   lives in me.” Our life is Christ. In him do we  live, breathe, and   have our being. “What would Jesus do?” is not  Christianity. Christianity   asks: “What is Christ <em>doing </em> through me … through us? And how is Jesus doing it?” Following Jesus    means “trust and obey” (respond), and living by his indwelling life    through the power of the Spirit.</ul>
<ul>The  “Jesus of history”   cannot be disconnected from the “Christ of faith.”  The Jesus who   walked the shores of Galilee is the same person who  indwells the church   today. There is no disconnect between the Jesus of  Mark&#8217;s Gospel and   the incredible, all-inclusive, cosmic Christ of  Paul&#8217;s letter to the   Colossians. The Christ who lived in the first  century has a pre-existence   before time. He also has a post-existence  after time. He is Alpha and   Omega, Beginning and End, A and Z, all at  the same time. He stands in   the future and at the end of time at the  same moment that He indwells   every child of God. Failure to embrace  these paradoxical truths has   created monumental problems and has  diminished the greatness of Christ   in the eyes of God&#8217;s people.</ul>
<ul>It&#8217;s  possible to confuse   “the cause” of Christ with the person of Christ.  When the early   church said “Jesus is Lord,” they did not mean “Jesus  is my core   value.” Jesus isn&#8217;t a cause; he is a real and living person  who can   be known, loved, experienced, enthroned and embodied.  Focusing on his   cause or mission doesn&#8217;t equate focusing on or  following him. It&#8217;s all   too possible to serve “the god” of serving  Jesus as opposed to serving   him out of an enraptured heart that&#8217;s been  captivated by his irresistible   beauty and unfathomable love. Jesus  led us to think of God differently,   as relationship, as the God of all  relationship.</ul>
<ul>Jesus Christ was not a    social activist nor a moral philosopher. To pitch him that way is to    drain his glory and dilute his excellence. Justice apart from Christ    is a dead thing. The only battering ram that can storm the gates of    hell is not the cry of Justice, but the name of Jesus. Jesus Christ   is  the embodiment of Justice, Peace, Holiness, Righteousness. He is   the  sum of all spiritual things, the “strange attractor” of the   cosmos.  When Jesus becomes an abstraction, faith loses its reproductive   power.  Jesus did not come to make bad people good. He came to make dead    people live.</ul>
<ul>It is possible to confuse    an academic knowledge or theology about Jesus with a personal  knowledge   of the living Christ himself. These two stand as far apart  as do the   hundred thousand million galaxies. The fullness of Christ  can never   be accessed through the frontal lobe alone. Christian faith  claims to   be rational, but also to reach out to touch ultimate  mysteries. The   cure for a big head is a big heart.</ul>
<ul>Jesus  does not leave his   disciples with CliffsNotes for a systematic  theology. He leaves his   disciples with breath and body.</ul>
<ul>Jesus  does not leave his   disciples with a coherent and clear belief system  by which to love God   and others. Jesus gives his disciples wounds to  touch and hands to heal.</ul>
<ul>Jesus does  not leave his   disciples with intellectual belief or a “Christian  worldview.” He   leaves his disciples with a relational faith.</ul>
<ul>Christians  don&#8217;t follow   a book. Christians follow a person, and this library of  divinely inspired   books we call “The Holy Bible” best help us follow  that person.   The Written Word is a map that leads us to The Living  Word. Or as Jesus   himself put it, “All Scripture testifies of me.” The  Bible is not   the destination; it&#8217;s a compass that points to Christ,  heaven&#8217;s North   Star.</ul>
<ul>The Bible does  not offer   a plan or a blueprint for living. The “good news” was not a  new   set of laws, or a new set of ethical injunctions, or a new and  better   PLAN. The “good news” was the story of a person&#8217;s life, as  reflected   in The Apostle&#8217;s Creed. The Mystery of Faith proclaims this  narrative:   “Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come  again.” The   meaning of Christianity does not come from allegiance to  complex theological   doctrines, but a passionate love for a way of  living in the world that   revolves around following Jesus, who taught  that love is what makes   life a success . . . not wealth or health or  anything else: but love.   And God <em>is</em> love.</ul>
<ul>Only  Jesus can transfix   and then transfigure the void at the heart of the  church. Jesus Christ   cannot be separated from his church. While Jesus  is distinct from his   Bride, he is not separate from her. She is in  fact his very own Body   in the earth. God has chosen to vest all of  power, authority, and life   in the living Christ. And God in Christ is  only known fully in and through   his church. (As Paul said, “The  manifold wisdom of God &#8211; which is   Christ &#8211; is known through the <em>ekklesia</em>.”)</ul>
<ul>The  Christian life, therefore,   is not an individual pursuit. It&#8217;s a  corporate journey. Knowing Christ   and making him known is not an  individual prospect. Those who insist   on flying life solo will be  brought to earth, with a crash. Thus Christ   and his church are  intimately joined and connected. What God has joined   together, let no  person put asunder. We were made for life with God;   our only happiness  is found in life with God. And God&#8217;s own pleasure   and delight is  found therein as well.</ul>
<ul>In a world which sings,   “Oh, who is this Jesus?” and a church which sings, “Oh, let&#8217;s   all be like</p>
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<p>Jesus,” who will sing with lungs of leather, “Oh, how we   love Jesus!”</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">If  Jesus could   rise from the dead, we can at least rise from our bed,  get off our couches   and pews, and respond to the Lord&#8217;s resurrection  life within us, joining   Jesus in what he&#8217;s up to in the world.</span></p>
<p>We  call on others to join us&#8211;not   in removing ourselves from planet  Earth, but to plant our feet more   firmly on the Earth while our  spirits soar in the heavens of God&#8217;s pleasure   and purpose. We are not  of this world, but we live in this world for   the Lord&#8217;s rights and  interests. We, collectively, as the <em>ekklesia</em> of God, are Christ in and to this world.</p>
<p>May  God have a people on this   earth who are a people of Christ, through  Christ, and for Christ. A   people of the cross. A people who are  consumed with God&#8217;s eternal passion,   which is to make his Son  preeminent, supreme, and the head over all   things visible and  invisible. A people who have discovered the touch   of the Almighty in  the face of his glorious Son. A people who wish to   know only Christ  and him crucified, and to let everything else fall   by the wayside. A  people who are laying hold of his depths, discovering   his riches,  touching his life, and receiving his love, and making HIM   in all of  his unfathomable glory known to others.</p>
<p>The two of us may  disagree   about many things&#8211;be they ecclesiology, eschatology,  soteriology, not   to mention economics, globalism and politics.</p>
<p>But in our two most recent   books&#8211;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Eternity-Here-Rediscovering-Ageless-Purpose/dp/1434768708/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1233609867&amp;sr=1-4" target="_blank"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">From   Eternity to Here</span></em></a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/So-Beautiful-Divine-Design-Church/dp/1434799794/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1245500148&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">So   Beautiful</span></em></a>&#8211;we    have sounded forth a united trumpet. These books are the Manifests to    this Manifesto. They each present the vision that has captured our  hearts   and that we wish to impart to the Body of Christ&#8211; “This ONE  THING   I know” (Jn.9:25) that is the ONE THING that unites us all:</p>
<p><em>Jesus the Christ.</em></p>
<p>Christians   don&#8217;t follow Christianity; Christians follow Christ.</p>
<p>Christians   don&#8217;t preach themselves; Christians proclaim Christ.</p>
<p>Christians   don&#8217;t point people to core values; Christians point people to the cross.</p>
<p>Christians   don&#8217;t preach about Christ: Christians preach Christ.</p>
<p>Over 300 years ago a German   pastor wrote a hymn that built around the Name above all names:</p>
<p><em>Ask   ye what great thing I know, </em></p>
<ul><em>that delights and stirs   me so?<br />
What the high reward I win? </em></ul>
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Jesus Christ, the crucified.</em></ul>
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<p><em>This   is that great thing I know; </em></p>
<ul><em>this delights and stirs   me so:<br />
faith in him who died to save, </em></ul>
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<ul><em>His who triumphed   o&#8217;er the grave:<br />
Jesus Christ, the crucified.</em></ul>
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<ul><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus Christ &#8211; the   crucified, resurrected, enthroned, triumphant, living Lord.</span></ul>
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<ul>He is our Pursuit,   our Passion, and our Life.</ul>
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<ul>Amen.</p>
<p>To discuss this manifesto   and its implications, go to <em>A Jesus Manifesto Blog</em> at</ul>
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<ul><a href="http://ajesusmanifesto.wordpress.com/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">http://ajesusmanifesto.wordpress.com/</span></a></ul>
<ul><strong><em>We also suggest listening   to the YouTube song </em></strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dca0P7w9ZQ" target="_blank"><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Give   Me Jesus</span></em></strong></a><strong><em> while reading this manifesto.</em></strong></ul>
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Leonard Sweet</strong> is an author, preacher, scholar, and ordained United Methodist  clergyman currently serving as the E. Stanley Jones Professor of  Evangelism at Drew Theological School, in Madison, New Jersey, and a  Visiting Distinguished Professor at George Fox University in Portland,  Oregon. In 2007, he was voted <em>One of the 50 Most Influential Christian Leaders in America</em> (#8). In 2006, he received the same honor.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.the-next-wave.info/archives/userfiles/Image/eternity.jpg" alt="" hspace="6" vspace="6" width="99" height="150" align="left" />Frank Viola  is an influential voice in the contemporary house church  movement. For  the last 20 years, he has been gathering with organic  house churches  in the United States. Frank has written eight  revolutionary books on  radical church restoration, including <em>God&#8217;s Ultimate Passion</em> and <em>The Untold Story of the New Testament Church.</em> He is a nationally recognized expert on new trends for the church,   holds conferences on the deeper Christian life, and is actively engaged   in planting New Testament–style churches. His Web site, <a href="http://www.frankviola.com/">www.frankviola.com</a>,   contains many free resources designed to enrich the spiritual lives of   God&#8217;s people. Frank and his family live in Gainesville, Florida.</p>
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<div>Thanks to Len and Frank for this article.  Before the predictable misunderstandings start pouring in let me point  out that this article neither rules out or rules in any specific  activities in the realms of worship, evangelism, or political activity.  The article reminds us that since &#8220;all things cohere in Him&#8221; (Christ  according to Paul) the question of what actions, discplines, and  practices should mark our lives together can only be answerd by asking  how they go together with a life defined by our participation in Christ.  This is a helpful reminder.</div>
<div>Posted by Frank Valdez | Posted at 07/23/2009 7:52 AM</div>
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<div>What a lovely commercial.</div>
<div>Posted by Patrick Boatman | Posted at 07/23/2009 8:38 AM</div>
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<div>The message of Christ, of life in Him and  His life through us to perform those good works we were created for, for  His good pleasure to the praise of the glory of His grace has been  drowned out by so much human invention, marketing, traditions of men and  compromise with the world over so many years it has become vitally  important to return to the simplicity of Christ. If anyone is aware of  the times we live and the needs of all those around us it is Christ  Himself. Yet on that day many will say Lord Lord did we not do all these  things in your name. So what it boils down to is just this, Christ. We  must take time to know Him not just intellectually but in our spirits  and allow His life and nature to saturate permeate and emulate through  us. Jesus didn&#8217;t feed every poor, heal every sick nor deliver every  oppressed or correct every social ill. Yet he came to do so, he was  anointed to do so. His heart was toward the oppressed, poor, sick etc&#8230;  but the one thing that governed all that He did was the abiding life of  the Father in Him. He only did and said what He saw the father do and  say in Him and through Him. We cannot improve on the Lord&#8217;s way and it  isn&#8217;t an either or proposition. It is out of close communion with Him  that His life overflows and His fruit begins to bear on our branches. It  is easy to become cynical and miss the heart of the matter anytime  someone makes a bold declaration. The Lord is definately stirring His  people back to a true Christ centeredness not in just rhetoric but in  practical experience as well. I am grateful for this reminder. Some may  think it is just a commercial for their books but I know that they  aren&#8217;t dependant on book sales but the facts are that a message best  spreads through printed material that is for sale. For some reason that  is the fact. So may this manifesto continue to spread and may many of  the books be sold. I have read them both and they are excellent and  needed today more than ever. Bless you brothers.</div>
<div>Posted by Seth | Posted at 07/23/2009 1:06 PM</div>
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<div>Thank you for stating it so clearly.  Thank you for clearing away the clutter and giving us this wonderful breath of fresh air.</div>
<div>Posted by Joe Scordato | Posted at 07/23/2009 6:04 PM</div>
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<p>Most of what is passed off today as the  gospel and the mission of God is merely meeting human needs.  It seems  that everywhere I go and almost everyone I talk to is about meeting  human needs.  This is nothing more than American consumerism in my  opinion.  I am hungry so the gospel must be about feeding me.  I am  thirst for knowledge so the gospel must be about educating me.  I need  salvation so the gospel must be about saving me.  And on and on it goes  ad infinitum.Paul of Tarsus proclaimed a gospel that was not only about Jesus Christ,  but it actually WAS Jesus Christ.  Christ in you, the hope of glory!   (see Gal. 1:15,16; Col.1:27)</p>
<p>Thanks you brothers for sounding such a clear call back to Christ centered faith.</p>
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<div>Posted by <a href="http://www.therebuilders.org/">Milt Rodriguez</a> | Posted at 07/24/2009 1:59 PM</div>
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<div>I echo what Frank Valdez said in his  comment. This Jesus Manifesto strips back so much of the fluff and  glitter and reveals the Christ. I believe that our glorious Lord is  stirring His people to lose it all&#8230;to die to it all&#8230;for His  sake&#8230;to have His Life and only His Life living in and through them.  Jesus the Christ is the Church in people and He will be central and  supreme. (I know because I&#8217;ve read the end of the book). Great article  and a timely reminder so full of hope and encouragement. We&#8217;re exhorted  to remind one another of these truths all the time because, for some  reason, we tend to forget them. That&#8217;s part of the reason why we need  one another.   Lastly, a key point is that if anything we say and do  isn&#8217;t &#8220;by Him&#8221; and &#8220;through Him&#8221; and &#8220;for Him&#8221;, it&#8217;s probably not Him.    Let&#8217;s start to behold Him in one another and allow Him to reveal  Himself through His beautiful Bride to the entire world!</div>
<div>Posted by <a href="http://www.simplechurch.com/profile/RonKellington">Ron Kellington</a> | Posted at 07/25/2009 11:41 AM</div>
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<div>I read the Manifesto a couple of months  back, and am so glad that Next Wave has picked it up!  This&#8221;document&#8221; is  the best definition/explanation I have ever read. Every follower of  Jesus should read this carefully and prayerfully.</div>
<div>Posted by Mike | Posted at 10/22/2009 5:20 AM</div>
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		<title>The Top 10 Paradoxes That Will Rule the Future by Len Sweet</title>
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<h2><span style="font-size: small;">On 28 February 2008, the &#8220;secret of life&#8221; turns 55.</span> <span style="font-size: xx-small;">(1)</span></h2>
<p>On  that day in 1953 Francis Crick walked into the Eagle Pub (Cambridge,  UK) and announced to its patrons: &#8220;We have found the secret of life.&#8221;</p>
<p>The  &#8220;we&#8221; referenced Crick&#8217;s collaborator and fellow Nobel laureate James D.  Watson. &#8220;When we saw the answer we had to pinch ourselves,&#8221; Watson told  the BBC in a 50th anniversary interview. &#8220;Could it really be this  pretty? When we went to lunch [at the Eagle] we realised it probably was  true because it was so pretty.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what is the &#8220;secret of life&#8221; that is so &#8220;pretty&#8221; it had to be &#8220;true&#8221;?</p>
<p>The  &#8220;secret of life&#8221; was a shape, a structure, a design. The &#8220;secret&#8221; was  not the discovery of DNA molecules, or the theory of &#8220;heredity&#8221; (like  organisms produce like from generation to generation). The &#8220;secret of  life&#8221; was the discovery that the chemical molecules comprising DNA have a  double-helix structure.</p>
<p><img style="margin-left: 8px; margin-right: 8px;" src="http://www.the-next-wave.info/archives/userfiles/Image/Jan08/doublehelix.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="200" align="left" />The  secret of life is &#8220;double,&#8221; two strands that run in opposite directions  creating a reproductive slingshot. And the secret of life brings  together another double&#8212;the linear (line) and non-linear (curve) which  together form a spiral which in anti-parallel fashion winds around a  single axis.</p>
<p>In other words, the &#8220;secret of life&#8221; is a paradox.  Or you might even say it is doubly paradoxical: a double double built  around a single.</p>
<p>The paradoxical nature of physical reality  manifests itself at every dimension of existence, whether microcosm or  macrocosm. Take wave-particle duality. Or observe a vacuum at zero  degrees Kelvin: the closest we can get to nothingness proves to be a  buzzing beehive of subatomic activity. It seems that where nothing  happens is precisely where everything is happening.</p>
<p>The  Double Helix as the &#8220;secret of life&#8221; applies as much to our spiritual  life as to our physical life. In fact, in book after book I have argued  that the essence of orthodoxy is paradoxy, and that every Christian must  learn how to put on the spectacles of paradox and become a  paradoxalist.</p>
<p>I call discipleship the cruciform  life, as the cross is the ultimate symbol of paradoxy (or what Dwight  Friesen calls more memorably &#8220;orthoparadoxy&#8221;). The cross brings into  relationship opposites, not so much as a dialectic to be synthesized but  more as a non-dualistic double helix to be embraced. In Christ all  opposites are not so much reconciled as transcended in the Oneness of  Twoness. We are born for ontological tension: in-but-not-of the world.</p>
<p>The  first arm of the cross is the vertical, our relationship with God. The  second arm of the cross is the horizontal, our relationship with others,  ourselves, and creation. If you just pick up one arm of the cross, it  becomes a stick most often used to beat other people with. If we are, in  William Blake&#8217;s lines, &#8220;put on earth that we may learn to bear the  beams of love,&#8221; we must pick up and carry a cross with both arms  crossed. Heresy is the cross uncrossed.</p>
<p>I  begin with this reminder of the secret of the spiritual life because we  are on a crash course with the future, and to live in the 21st century  you have to come to terms with paradox, whether you&#8217;re a disciple of  Jesus or not. Call it the shift from a &#8220;Bell Curve&#8221; World to a &#8220;Well Curve&#8221; World as Daniel Pink does. <span style="font-size: xx-small;">(2)</span> Or call it The Age of Turbulence (2007) as Alan Greenspan has done,  where the problems we face are of such a magnitude of complexity that  there is no single answer to anything anymore. Or call it deep cultural  schizophrenia, where Princess Diana could spend 3000 pounds a week on  her grooming so she could go out and hug lepers and caress AIDS victims,  or where every cow in the European Union is subsidized to the tune of  $2.50 a day while a billion people around the world struggle to live on  $1 a day. Whatever you call it, the future turns everything it touches  into something else, most often it&#8217;s very opposite, the two coexisting  as symbiotic not dichotomous realities.</p>
<p>Plato said that  philosophy, in his words, &#8220;is not so much a matter of acquiring beliefs  as of turning the soul away from fantasy and towards reality.&#8221; In  theory, Christians ought to be most prepared for the paradoxical  realities of the future for two reasons. First, the future is our native  time zone. Jesus comes to us from beyond and pulls us from the future  more than pushes us from the past. The Holy Spirit encourages time  travel, most often to the future. Close your eyes and travel in time:  where do you go? The default time-zone of the Christian is what is  ahead, not what is behind.</p>
<p>The second reason why Christians  should be most prepared for a future where opposite things are happening  at the same time and aren&#8217;t contradictory is because of our faith&#8217;s  friendliness toward ambiguity, simultaneity, and double exposure.   That&#8217;s why Christians have such sharp noses for incongruities and  ironies. For us, paradox can be paradise.</p>
<p>Here are the Top 10 Paradoxes that will rule our future. I offer these Top 10 Paradoxes with some caution and caveats.</p>
<p>*The  5 biggest stories of the last fifty years are still playing themselves  out: 1) the demise of Marxism-Leninism as a potent ideology outside of  China; 2) the rise of the Internet as the primary delivery system for  communication and information; 3) the discrediting of Freudianism as a  reliable guide to human choices; 4) the slow death of postmodernism; 5)  the resurgence of political Islam or what is called Ïslamism. Any one of  these can reassert itself at any time.</p>
<p>*The most  predictable thing about the future is that it never conforms to our  expectations. But saying this is about as adequate as saying that  Hannibal Lecter has an eating disorder. The future will toss up  surprises that will take our breath away. Gambling may be an abuse of  prophesy, but you can safely gambol into the future with the gamble of  volatility.</p>
<p>The stakes have never been higher in our living  out &#8220;the secret of life.&#8221; In the next twenty-five years, we must attempt  what has never been done before: the dramatic redesign of how we live  together on this planet from the bottom up that will take Mother Earth  off life-support while offering an &#8220;abundant life&#8221; for everyone.</p>
<p>The  mastery of these Top 10 Paradoxes is a call for heroism, not to reach  the moon (as in the days of JFK) but to save planet Earth.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;">Here are the Top 10 paradoxes that will rule our future:</span></p>
<p>1) Do little large.</p>
<p>2) To move up, move down.</p>
<p>3) Learn to fail so you can succeed.</p>
<p>4) Your only control is in being out of control.</p>
<p>5) It&#8217;s more important to know what you don&#8217;t know than what you know.</p>
<p>6) The more you think out-of-the-box, the more you need well-built boxes to think.</p>
<p>7) A graying globe requires greening.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.the-next-wave.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Only locavores can globalize.</p>
<p>9) When fast replaces vast, go slowly with the holy.</p>
<p>10) Moore&#8217;s Law makes Murphy&#8217;s Law all the more relevant.</p>
<p>I  will be writing about each one of these in more detail in the weeks and  months to come. My challenge will be to convey the importance of each  paradox in ways that will help us move forward from a Gutenberg to a  Google world. I think of Gene Roddenberry, who was trying to get NBC to  pick up &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; and realized that NBC executives just weren&#8217;t  getting it. So in desperation Roddenberry said, call it &#8220;Wagon Train to  the Stars.&#8221;</p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;">If we don&#8217;t hitch our wagon to the stars pretty quick, the skies will fall faster than you can say &#8220;Chicken Little.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>Footnotes:</p>
<p>1)  *In 2008 for the first time we will know whether Rosalind Franklin, the  molecular biologist whose photographs of DNA are what triggered Crick  and Watson&#8217;s &#8220;discovery,&#8221; was ever a nominee for the Nobel Prize during  her lifetime (she died in 1958). Crick and Watson appropriated  Franklin&#8217;s work in the discovery of the double helix and took her glory  for themselves.</p>
<p>2)  For more on &#8220;The Well Curve&#8221; see Daniel H. Pink, &#8220;The Shape of Things to Come,&#8221; Wired, May 2003, 027, 030.</p>
<hr /><span style="color: #999999; font-size: x-small;"><span><img style="margin-left: 8px; margin-right: 8px;" src="http://www.the-next-wave.info/archives/userfiles/Image/images.jpeg" alt="" width="80" height="120" align="left" />Currently  the E. Stanley Jones Professor of Evangelism at Drew Theological School  (Madison, NJ), and Visiting Distinguished Professor at George Fox   University (Portland, OR), Leonard Sweet is the author of more than one  hundred articles, 600 published sermons and thirty books, most recently <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1578566495?tag=organicchur0e-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=1578566495&amp;adid=0DV5DK9ARP1MDZV7KDZC&amp;">The Gospel According to Starbucks</a> </em>(2007).</span></span></p>
<p>Sweet&#8217;s web-based preaching resource <em><a href="http://www.wikiletics.com/">Wikiletics.com</a></em> is the first open-source preaching resource on the web. Founder and  President of SpiritVenture Ministries, Sweet is a frequent speaker and  conversation partner at conferences both in the US and around the globe.  In both 2006 and 2007 he was voted &#8220;One of the 50 Most Influential  Christians in America&#8221; (<a href="http://www.thechurchreport.com/">www.thechurchreport.com</a>). His current projects include a preaching text entitled <em>Giving Blood, The Leadership Myth (</em>with Joe Myers), <em>Pay Attention: Every Bush is Burning</em>, and later in 2007, <em>Outstorming The Perfect Storm. </em>His weekly free podcast is called &#8220;Napkin Scribbles,&#8221; and a longer subscription-based weekly podcast is available from <a href="http://leadershipbuzz.com/">LeadershipBuzz.com</a>.</p>
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<div>good stuff!  can&#8217;t wait for more on the 10 paradoxes.  what a tease &#8230;</div>
<div>Posted by <a href="http://tammythehippie.blogspot.com/">tammy</a> | Posted at 01/11/2008 3:49 AM</div>
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<div>i love len</div>
<div>Posted by <a href="http://pneumanaut.com/">erickeck</a> | Posted at 01/19/2008 1:19 PM</div>
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<div>WOW! My brain hurts, but I know Len is onto  something. I think some of these ten paradoxes are really needed for us  to face the future with understanding. I will start with understanding  that I don&#8217;t understand. Love the one that says &#8220;when vast becomes fast,  go slowly with the holy.&#8221;</div>
<div>Posted by Jim Lee | Posted at 01/24/2008 7:26 AM</div>
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<div>Vintage Sweet as usual. Creative brilliance  that always gives a fresh perspective. I likewise look forward to  hearing more on this.</div>
<div>Posted by Brian | Posted at 01/28/2008 10:03 AM</div>
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<p>+  Great insight Len! I hope and pray that  as christians we can get to&#8217;the real&#8217; and I often wonder if this isn&#8217;t a  gift  given to some but not others? I think so. Few have the desire to  &#8216;get to the crux of that which is genuine&#8217;  Most just try to escape  pain. Anyway.I just read an interesting piece:&#8221;The Crisis Of The Real&#8221; article  written by Kevin Depew on the site Minyanville.com  He cites and author   Jean Baudrillard who wrote &#8220;Simulacrum and Simulation&#8221;  (1981)   This  is an important topic. I&#8217;m an artist, not a teacher or writer, but I can  tell you it&#8217;s a kind  of central issue that not often discussed. Bravo!</p>
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<div>Posted by Laszlo aka &#8220;Just A Tourist&#8221; | Posted at 01/31/2008 9:07 AM</div>
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<div>I&#8217;m enjoying your book &#8220;Aqua Church 2.0&#8243;  While reading you paradoxes I got most of them had to look up moorse  law, I don&#8217;t understand the fast vast one, when are commenting on it.  Looking for it on google brought me here.</div>
<div>Posted by Jon | Posted at 03/27/2009 10:23 AM</div>
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		<title>Jesus Manifesto: The Interview of Frank Viola and Len Sweet by Mike Morrell</title>
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<p>1. Jesus: He&#8217;s the central figure of our faith, and yet in so many ways He&#8217;s like a living Rorschach test &#8211; everyone sees what they want to see: Mystic, sage, redeemer, prophet, reformer. Who is <em>your </em>Jesus? Is He the Jesus of history? The Christ of faith and inner experience? What are your sources, and what need do you feel that <em>Jesus Manifesto </em>is fulfilling in publishing, yet again, about the Most Talked About Man in History?</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Frank:</strong> We believe that the Jesus disclosed to us in the New Testament is the same Christ whom the Holy Spirit reveals today. He is the Christ of the cosmos, the Christ of Eternity, the Alpha and the Omega, as well as the Christ who lived on this earth as the quintessential human – the second Adam, or more accurately, the Last Adam – who then died, rose again, was glorified, ascended, enthroned, and now lives in His people. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">By my lights, the Christ that is presented to us in Colossians and Ephesians is little known or preached today. Mind you, He’s the <em>same</em> Christ as the One born in Bethlehem. But His incomparable greatness has been lost sight of in so many quarters.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">We feel that for many Christians today, their Christ is simply too small. And so we chase all sorts of other things . . . good things, religious things, spiritual things even. And Jesus becomes a mere footnote or a stamp of approval – an <em>Imprimatur –</em> that we place over those other things.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">We expound on the following point in one of our chapters, but take for instance Paul’s letter to the Colossians. Scholars have spent a lot trying to figure out the exact nature of the erroneous teaching that captured the minds and hearts of the Colossian believers.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">One of the reasons why there is so much debate over it is because Paul never <em>directly </em>addresses the problem. Paul’s primary way of dealing with church problems is to give God’s people a stunning unveiling of Jesus Christ. (Therein lies a valuable lesson for all church leaders.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">For Paul, Jesus Christ is the solution to all problems. And any problem that a believer or a church has can always be juiced down to one common denominator. <em>They have lost sight of the Head, Christ.</em> <em>They have lost touch with the living Christ.</em> Or to put it in Paul’s words, they have stopped “holding fast to the Head.”</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">But whatever the error was, we can be sure of this: The Colossians thought they could graduate beyond Jesus Christ. They took Him as Lord and Savior, but they felt they could advance to higher and deeper things. Higher and deeper things beyond Jesus . . . hmmm.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In short, if we ever get to the place where Jesus Christ isn’t enough … if we ever get to the place where we feel we can advance beyond Him … then we haven’t met the Christ of Colossians. And our Christ is too small.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In the same connection, there is a debate within much of Christendom presently. It’s not new, but it’s grabbed the attention of many young believers, so it seems novel to some.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">One side argues for the Jesus of justice – who is largely derived from the Gospel accounts. The other side argues for the Jesus of justification – who is largely drawn from some of Paul’s statements in Galatians and Romans.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">While Len and I embrace the Jesus of justice and the Jesus of justification, our book attempts to present a Christ who is far greater, far more glorious, and far richer than simply being the Justice-Giver or the Justifier. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">We feel that this third vision of Jesus is sorely neglected in our time. It’s possible to put justice and justification on the throne, and leave the living Christ out in the cold.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The indwelling life of Jesus also seems to be a missing note in both discussions.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In this regard, I don’t think I can improve upon what Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury, said about the book: </span></p>
<ul><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">“This is a really exhilarating reintroduction to a Jesus who seems sometimes to have become a stranger to the Church; a passionate and joyful celebration of God with us, which cuts right through churchy quarrelling and brings us back to wonder, love and praise – and the urgent desire to make Him known to all.”</span></ul>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Len:</strong> When I was 17, I deconverted from Christianity and became an atheist. After college I decided to go into academe and study the history of religions from a scientific, critical perspective. When I was in graduate school, and gradually finding my way back to faith, I made an appointment with a professor to talk about my return journey to orthodoxy. This theologian confessed that for him personally, “I am in pursuit of truth. Whatever truth is, and wherever it is to be found, that is the journey I’m on. When I seek truth and find it, and if truth turns out to be two hydrogen atoms that accidentally collided, and no more than that, I will kneel in front of those two atoms and give them my worship and praise.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I shall never forget the power of his words which sought to embrace the meaning of meaninglessness. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">At about the same time, I encountered a letter Dostoevsky wrote to Natalya Fonvizina, in which he admitted that he was a “child of unbelief and doubt” and would remain so “until my coffin is closed over me.” That got my attention. But then Dostoevsky went on to say more: in the letter he laid out his conviction that “nothing is more perfect than Christ . . . .” He then adds: “If someone succeeded in proving to me that Christ was outside the truth, and if, in reality, the truth was outside Christ, then I should prefer to remain with Christ than with the truth.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">It suddenly hit me that here were the two choices I was facing in my spiritual journey: the worship of a Big Bang, or the worship of a Savior, Redeemer, Sanctifier and Friend who sticks closer than a Big Brother (Proverbs 18:24).  That was a decisive moment for my spiritual pilgrimage, and I immediately immersed myself in our sacred texts and traditions and learned from them that it is dangerous to separate three things that enliven and enfaith us: Jesus, Scriptures, Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit brings Christ to life, and the Scriptures point us to Christ. Separate one from the other and you risk writing another chapter in the history of the waylaying and wrong-footing of the Christian story.<strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>2. The <em>Jesus Manifesto</em> started out as an online declaration by you two; now it&#8217;s a book. How did this come together?</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Len:</strong> I smelled Jesus all over Frank and wanted to know how he had kept his faith “fixed” on Christ. Frank and I met at a GFU event, and stayed in the same bed &amp; breakfast. In the course of coming and going, we both commiserated about how, to hold on to tolerance, so many of us think we must let go of Christ and just hold on to God. So the Christian story becomes Unitarian, primarily about God, only peripherally about God’s Spirit. But Jesus no longer has the leading role . . . that belongs to God alone. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Then I mentioned to Frank that I could not get to Colossians 2 because I couldn’t get past Colossians 1, where it says that “the secret that has been kept hidden has now been revealed, and that secret is Christ in you, the hope of glory.” When I found out that Frank also was transfixed and transfigured by Colossians, we first talked of jointly writing a commentary on Colossians. But then we were led in this direction, and now no one knows the rest of the story …</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Frank:</strong> In August of 2008, Len and I began conversing via email and phone. One of the things that came up in our conversations (as a pleasant surprise to both of us) was that we both felt that Jesus was getting short-changed in His church, being eclipsed by other “hot” topics and subjects. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In February 2009, we both spoke at a seminar hosted by George Fox Seminary, and we were able to spend some time in person to discuss what was on our hearts. Our burden only increased, as well as an awareness that God had something for us to accomplish together to discharge it.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In April, the idea of writing a joint article/essay emerged. We wrote it in approxiamately18 days, titled it “A Magna Carta,” and subtitled it “A Jesus Manifesto.” It was published online on June 22, 2009. It went viral immediately. I’m told that it was viewed 500,000 times in 8 weeks.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Thomas Nelson was interested in turning the essay into a book (and we were as well), and that’s what happened. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Folks can visit </span><a href="http://www.thejesusmanifesto.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">www.theJesusManifesto.com</span></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> and read sample chapters, hear some brand new songs that were recorded by professional Christian artists based on the book (one of them by the man who wrote some of Amy Grant’s most popular tunes), check out the iPhone app, read endorsements, etc.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>3. Frank, you&#8217;ve been identified with the &#8216;house church&#8217; and &#8216;organic church&#8217; movements &#8211; how has <em>Jesus Manifesto</em> been nurtured in that soil? In what ways do you think if functions as a kind of prophetic critique to it?</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Frank:</strong> In 2005, I began working on a project that I finished at the end of 2009. The project has come to be called the </span><a href="http://www.reimaginingchurch.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">ReChurch Library</span></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> – five books on radical church reform and the restoration of God’s grand mission in the earth.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The dominating subtext of these five books is the absolute, functional headship and supremacy of the Lord Jesus Christ. Each book in the series themes around this subtext. The </span><a href="http://frankviola.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/deep-ecclesiology/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">afterword of </span><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">From Eternity to Here</span></em></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> is fully dedicated to it.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In short, the organic expression of the church and the supremacy of Christ go hand in hand. Christ is the head; the church is His body. They are organically connected by life. I’ve defined the (local) church as a group of people who are learning to live by the indwelling life of Christ together and displaying that life in their locale. I don’t believe the New Testament knows of any other kind of local church. In addition, the church has no other specialty but her Lord. Everything else flows out of that relationship. Thus for me, the issue of the church has never been its structure. The issue has always been its center – Christ. If Christ is truly the functional head in a particular church, the expression of that church will be effected—sometimes radically. This is my chief argument in <em>Reimagining Church. </em></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><em>Jesus Manifesto</em> takes the thread Christ’s supremacy and builds an entire volume around it. Consequently, the book is a blending of both our (Len and mine) hearts, voices, and burdens regarding our shared vision that Christ should “have the first place in all things” (as Paul put it). Our book explores what that means exactly.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In short, I view <em>Jesus Manifesto</em> as an enlargement of the thread that runs through all of my previous books.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">On a lighter note, for the last two years I’ve been writing </span><a href="http://www.davidccook.com/catalog/index.cfm" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">cook books</span></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">, but this is my first sweet book <img src='http://www.the-next-wave.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">With respect to your last question, I am of the opinion that the driving force of <em>much</em> of the house church, organic church, simple church, and missional church movements is <em>not</em> Jesus Christ. And so I’d like to see this changed. Hopefully, God will use the book toward that end.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>4. Len, you have been a pioneer in Christians&#8217; being responsive to the postmodern cultural and philosophical turn &#8211; what is now known in different circles as &#8216;emerging&#8217; or &#8216;missional&#8217; church. Is <em>Jesus Manifesto</em> a departure from your earlier fascination with cultural change and its impact on faith, or in some ways a fulfillment of it? </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Len:</strong> Even though my primary field is history and semiotics, I challenge you to find one of my books where I do not make the case for the supremacy and sovereignty of Christ in some fashion. In fact, for the last decade, in one book after another, most blatantly in </span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/So-Beautiful-Divine-Design-Church/dp/1434799794/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1273517933&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">So Beautiful</span></em></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> (2009) and </span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Out-Question-Into-Mystery-Getting-Relationship/dp/1578566479/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1273517961&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Out of the Question, Into the Mystery</span></em></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> (2004), I’ve been obsessed with making this case for understanding Jesus as “The Truth” and for understanding discipleship as becoming a Jesus manifest. I am only saying here what I have said in other places and other forms and other ways: how do we speak the name of “Jesus” in such a way that the world we’re in can actually hear us, not the world we wish we had but the world we actually have. The difference is that here, I feel like Robin Williams in “Dead Poets Society,” where he has the students throw away and tear up the text books and instead stand on top of the desks and speak at the top of their lungs. In <em>Jesus Manifesto</em>, maybe I’m back to my “shouting Methodist” and holiness Pentecostal roots. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>5. Up until last year, I would have never expected <em>Sweet </em>and <em>Viola</em> to be sharing a book byline together! What was it like collaborating for this? Did your styles naturally gel, or was co-authoring difficult?</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Frank:</strong> We were given a very quick deadline from the publisher after the book idea was finalized. As a result, we wrote the entire book in roughly six weeks. We were laboring on it Christmas Day even, rushing to meet our January 1<sup>st</sup> deadline. The book was also bathed in prayer. We deliberately prayed for one another as we wrote our chapters.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">But despite the haste, the process went smoother than I expected. We complimented each other’s chapters, adding to them our own unique ingredients and seasoning them with our own peculiar spices. Len made my chapters stronger, and I hope I did the same for his. I trust that readers will feel that the mix works.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Len:</strong> For me, what Frank and I did was not “work” but “play.” You don’t “work” a violin. You don’t “work” basketball.  You play a violin; you play basketball. All the best creativity comes from a play paradigm, not a work paradigm. “Labor” was what we got when we were banished from the garden, and in writing this book I felt that I was back in the garden, living out of God’s Prime Directive to Adam (“Conserve and Conceive”), with my pen a plow and my keyboard a seedbed. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">I always feared that co-authoring a book would stymie rather than stimulate my creativity. When I tried my hand at woodworking, I never could master the art of mortise and tenon joinery. But I found that Frank’s passionate investment in the project opened the sluices of my soul and the rain that flowed out from both our beings is what you hold in your hand. It’s a fine line between drawing out a colleague’s best and dredging. Frank never crossed the line. It was a joy to play with him in making mudpies of praise out of soil and rain. But as Frank says, the reader is the ultimate judge and jury of our Back to the Garden project. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>6. You all were up against some pretty strong critiques toward your original online <em>Jesus Manifesto</em> last year. Some folks thought that you were so &#8216;Christ-centered&#8217; that you weren&#8217;t Trinitarian enough; others thought you magnified Jesus&#8217; person at the expense of His teachings and deeds. Reading the book length <em>Jesus Manifesto</em>, I see that you more than address Jesus&#8217; place in the Triune dance; <em>perichoresis</em>, the community life of God. But what would you say to the readers approaching your book who are looking to integrate this high view of Jesus with their desire to pursue a witness of good works and social justice toward expressing God&#8217;s Kingdom? </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Len: </strong>Actually, we spend a lot of time talking about this in the book, maybe too much time (two chapters is a lot). But we did it because justice is now top dog among social values, and for many in both the more liberal and emerging sectors of the church, justice is another word for “equality”—making more equality more just than less equality. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The truth is no one knows what justice is. No philosopher in history has been able to satisfactorily define justice, whereas everyone knows what injustice is. Injustice is subject to Justice Potter Stewart’s “you-know-it-when-you-see-it” test (first applied to pornography). In fact, one of the best definitions of justice may be this: justice is what emerges in the struggle against injustice. If you don’t believe me, read Amartya Sen’s new book, <em>The Idea of Justice</em> (Harvard University Press, 2009), where he argues that justice is not a philosophical category or principle (“niti”) but a practice (“nyaya”). Justice is a practical matter of dealing with injustice; justice is asking “what is best to do in the here and now, given what can be done.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In other words, even philosophers are bringing us back to Micah 6:8 where we are to “love mercy,” and “do justice” all the while “walking humbly with our God.” Notice what we’re to love: mercy. We’re to “do justice,” or to “practice justice,” but we are to “love mercy” and “walk humbly.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">My critique of the emerging movement is precisely here: it’s like these “young evangelicals” discovered the “social gospel” movement a century after liberals did, or fifty years after their boomer parents did in “Sojourners.” I’m a “social gospel” person (is there any other gospel than a social one?). But when you replace the “kingdom of justice” as the “framing story” rather than Jesus’ life, death and resurrection as the framing story, there ends up everything “social” and nothing “gospel.” In the Scriptures the kingdom is never something you build or create; the kingdom is something you receive as a gift and enter with your whole being, because the kingdom is the presence of Christ. A couple of years ago </span><a href="http://www.relevantmagazine.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Relevant</span></em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> magazine</span></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> interviewed me about my critique of Emergent and the emerging church along these precise lines, so you can read more about it there.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Frank: </strong>Someone once counted almost 200 blogs on the original essay. As I recall, there were only five that were negative. The ones I saw did mention that we neglected to discuss the Trinity—a correct observation. The others felt that we were somehow pitting Jesus against justice. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">We certainly failed to talk about the Trinity in the essay. Right or wrong, we didn’t feel it was necessary to discuss it because our entire focus was on Jesus, and we were attempting to point out those aspects about Him that we felt aren’t getting enough air-play today. The Trinitarian nature of God wasn’t one of them; hence, it didn’t come up in our radar. We also wrongly assumed that most of our readers were familiar with our other books that go into the Trinity in detail.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">On the other point, we tried to state as clearly as possible that it’s a gross mistake to separate the Jesus of the Gospels from the Person of Christ depicted in the epistles. And that it’s a profound failure to separate His Person from His teachings. For us, neither should be neglected; both should be held together. I addressed this very question (as well as the topic of God’s kingdom and liberation theology) </span><a href="http://frankviola.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/kingdom-confusion-part-i/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">more fully in an interview last year</span></span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Having more space to unravel our vision and burden in the book (which is roughly 190 pages of actual text), we discuss the Trinity and we explore <em>why</em> the Person of Jesus shouldn’t be separated from His teachings and the problems that (we believe) ensue when we divide the two.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>7. There seems to be a lot of grassroots energy behind this book, as well as some high-profile friends of its message via endorsers from across the Christian spectrum. If your fondest dreams could be actualized, what do you hope <em>Jesus Manifesto</em> will accomplish &#8211; on the literary landscape, in the Body of Christ, in the marketplace of ideas? </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Len:</strong> When the Marx brothers were in the early stages of their career, the New York City family home was heavily mortgaged to the “Greenbaum” banking firm. Often the payments were very hard to come by. When the three elder brothers (Chico, Harpo and Groucho) and two younger brothers (Gummo and Zeppo) were on stage, their mother would stand in the wings. When her five zany sons began to improvise too much (especially Groucho) and depart  from script, she would snap them back with a loud stage whisper: “Greenbaum! Remember Greenbaum!” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">With this book Frank and I are hoping to snap the church back with a loud whisper: “Remember Christ. Remember Christ. Remember Christ.” It’s okay to improvise as long as you stay on script/Scripture and don’t short-shrift Christ. Don’t ever forget the supremacy and sovereignty of Christ. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">One more thing: Christianity has lost its liturgical and devotional language. To be sure, English is not the best language for liturgy or piety, as it has largely lost its stately, magisterial register that makes the 1611 King James Version (which was mostly cribbed from Tyndale’s 1537 translation) so resonant and thrilling. Frank and I purposely wrote this in a worshipful way in an attempt to re-introduce the church to a devotional way of talking about Jesus that seems to be missing in the life of faith today. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Frank: </strong>Yes. We are thankful that we have over 20 endorsements from some of the most influential leaders on the Christian landscape today. They include Baptist, Reformed, Anglican, Methodist, Charismatic, Pentecostal, New Monastic, Neo-Anabaptist, Missional, etc. It’s a nice mix of theologians, biblical scholars, pastors, and renowned authors, all of whom share our passion for the supremacy of Christ.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">My dream in a nutshell: That the Spirit of God would taken the unveiling of Jesus that’s presented in the book and press it upon the hearts of every reader, bringing us all to our faces in the presence of so great a Christ. That we would make Christ and Christ alone our chief pursuit, our chief love, our chief passion, and our chief obsession in life, in ministry, and in our churches – at whatever cost it may exact. That the body of Christ would begin to learn how to live by His indwelling life, which (according to the New Testament) is a major part of “the mystery of the ages.” And that churches all over this planet would be built upon the only foundation that exists – the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. Not in rhetoric, but in reality, thus discovering and displaying His inexhaustible riches to one another, to principalities and powers, and to a lost world.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">All told: I see the body of Christ in battle with its own. Some are fighting on the left; others on the right. This is true politically as well as theologically. May these timeless words from our Father stop us all dead in our tracks:</span></p>
<ul><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">“This is my beloved Son, hear HIM.”</span></ul>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><em>Jesus Manifesto</em> is our frail attempt to reflect this heavenly voice.</span></p>
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